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General Photography DDs - June 2015

Tue Jun 30, 2015, 9:24 AM
:iconcommunityrelations: Welcome!

This month the general photography CVs - Kaz-D, Mrs-Durden, and (as of the 13th) myself - set a total of 67 DDs across nearly every gallery we cover! Many thanks to everyone who's suggested to us, and as always we need more suggestions so don't be shy! Our guidelines are linked at the bottom of this article, and we tend to get a lot more People and Portraits suggestions than anything else so bonus points if you send us great pieces from the "weird" galleries. Self-suggestions are always welcome if you have a piece of your own that you think we should see!

:iconkaz-d: Features by Kaz-D

Red Wine by ArisHorizon Bottled Dream by arefin03 My favourite view by stevehood1 Fritillary flower in water with reflection by Sergey-Ryzhkov The Witch of Salem by BardoPhotography Have No Fear by sandas04 Found by KevinRossatty 21 days of Drought by Catosan Wine and Cheese by Awesomealexis1 Simulacres et Simulation by MARX77 Every breaking wave by iTaylie An apple a day by SamanthaPaigeImages Good morning! by FiorOf Colourful Beach by PhotoYoung Look up by Mafia--Hitman Young Rebel by Miguel-Santos summer days by Rona-Keller Bon apetite by Leon13th A Warm Place by Mrs-White Civita di Bagnoregio by roman-gp Regards by MD-Arts Colors of Ramadan - 2 by hotamr Waiting for lunch by egypt04

:iconmrs-durden: Features by Mrs-Durden

Juliette on a balcony by AyuAna Nights Out by deerArylide Strict supervisor~ by ieatnoodle The Devil's Bridge by bamboomix Warm evening in a cold winter by HoldW high expectations by irremedios Spring Dream by Yureya The Orange Curve by sullivan1985 wildflowers by bebefromtheblock .... by vvola Hot Seat by valkeeja Getting lost in Venice... by Ssquared-Photography Intrigued by C-h-r-i-s-P Untitled by Ddenisee Red Leaves by nikicorny loving the sea by elle-cannelle Backalley by YongL After the War (In My Mind) by DpressedSoul Pink cloud sakura by Snowfall-lullaby Castle Berlepsch by artmobe fade into dark by esmahanozkan Paul and Danielle Steampunk Wedding by HyperXP Hong Kong Lights by Furiousxr Sorrow Garden Tale vignette by iomaSaty Ad nauseam by Sei-Zako ... by absentii shadow on the wall by augenweide The Saga Begins by Balakov

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All of us know history by masyaka-kusyaka *** by winonaramon The girl and the cello by elyssa-obscura Metu by analogphoto Gone to lunch break by TibereMedori The Daydream by NickChao Melted by dinabelenko once upon a time in anatolia by cPaos 1952 Chevrolet Kustom Car by AmericanMuscle Jinshanling, Great Wall of China by TimGrey another day another debt by davespertine Alysia by EmilySoto Orange marmalade breakfast by VinaApsara Guy with Coffee by MirkoStoedter I don't smoke by nex Ruslan for Insideme by alissatim



The Tearoom Debates III: Critique v Criticism

Journal Entry: Mon Jun 29, 2015, 12:14 PM


Welcome back to the third installment of CRLiterature's new article series, The Tearoom Debates! We've shamelessly ripped off Mrs-Durden and CRPhotography, who currently run a bi-weekly series of opportunities for group readers to debate both sides of questions like "film or digital?" and then, in the next article, spotlight the input of the previous week's commenters.



Last week we asked "Does fanfiction have any place in publishing - and if not, in a perfect intellectual-property-lawless society, should it have a place in publishing?" and we got some brilliant feedback from you all. Some highlights included:

Your Input

There's individual moral obligation, which is the primary reason most fans, like myself, use standard disclaimers on our fan-work uploads. It doesn't clear me of legal action, but it's just in recognition of those who did put in the effort and costs of creating the worlds I am writing about. It's a thank you, that disclaimer, because I am a fan. - hlwar
Fanfics using the characters created and established by the author, well ... I can't say I'd give the writer of such a fic a lot of respect.  We can make an educated guess about how an established character may respond to a given situation or event, but the character is the property of the author.  It's akin to using someone's car without their permission.  If you use someone's car without their permission, you get hauled off to jail. But if the fanfic uses the universe rather than the characters, that's a bit different.  I wouldn't see an issue with a story about some kids at Hogwarts, as long as the writer of the fic used their own characters.  That's more like driving your own car through someone else's neighborhood.  Unless there's a sign on the street that says "No thru traffic" then in my mind, it's not so much of a problem. - Steve-C2 
I believe there will arise methods and platforms to make it possible, keeping the majority of people happy within a legal framework... but that's only going to get started on if the demand and the need for such a thing is high enough: as it is, the average fan may not realise it is not legal to let people commission Invader Zim or Slave Leia cross-stitched on a handkerchief, even if they put a disclaimer on their page. And that's where it should start: clear information about what's legal, and what's not. More people should get informed, and not just parrot the rest of the internet. - BATTLEFAIRIES
"50 Shades gives fanfiction a bad name ;) " - vespera | "Or a very good name, if you're into that shit." - tiganusi
Fanfic does have a place in publishing, but because the market is saturated with free fanfic, it's very unlikely you'll see anyone pay for the vast majority of it. But the really gigantic fandoms like Star Wars/Trek have been pumping out licensed(?) published canonical/canon-friendly novels for years that are essentially professional fanfic. - nawkaman 
But so long as we call them 'fan X' we're admitting that the thing is not meant to be taken seriously. That's the artist's choice, I suppose. As a consumerist culture, we've created this sub-basement for ourselves to toil away in (sometimes) obscurity, to get away with doing what we've always done, in a slightly more honest way.  But I suspect the future will belong more to the imagination than the dollar. - sandzen



This Week's Discussion


Toning down the flamebait this week, we're going for a somewhat less divisive but also more personally-charged topic for a lot of our readers: What is the right balance of positive and negative in critique? Do you really need both?

Here's what our local harebrains had to say:

Tailoring critique to the person you're giving said critique to is the best way to go about it, I think. Personally, I think it's good to go with the Gordon Ramsay approach. And not the Kitchen Nightmares "this poem is soggy because it's so half-baked" sort of way, but the actual "get it together correctly" sort of way. Gordon Ramsay is very nice when teaching people who are relatively new to cooking. The reason for that is because they're new to it, they're working to be good and to improve. I think the same approach is important for writing. It doesn't do much good to be blunt to someone who's new, or has only just started to try to improve. That's a solid way to discourage people from wanting to write, and as writers we should bring people in, not push them away. However, much like Gordon Ramsay, I draw the line when people who don't really know how to write claim to be professionals. At that point, I don't think being nice is as necessary. If you're making the claim that you're a professional in any given field, then that means you are similarly accepting that you will be criticized by your peers in that field. I'm not saying that critique should be rude or involve personal attacks, of course — keep it professional, keep it to the writing itself. But at that stage, it's not about balancing positive or negative, at least not in my eyes. At that point it's about making the writing better, and giving critique in a way where the writer can constructively take away from your feedback. If you're not sure where the writer's at, then meet in the middle. Be constructive, be friendly, make it clear that your feedback's about improving on the work, not about taking them down. Mutual respect goes a long way, without it having to come to positive or negative. Pointing out things you like is helpful, so the writer knows that there are aspects of the writing that are holding up well, but having said that, if a reader doesn't comment about it, the writer should assume neutrality. If you like or dislike something enough to say so, then that's the feedback you should leave in your critique, but otherwise, no need to say more than you mean for the sake of pleasantries, imo. - wreckling


I very much agree with the notion of tailoring your crit to the recipient. If you're working with someone who is A) experienced and B) asking you to rip something to shreds, you can feel free to rip it to shreds and skip the positive stuff. Personally, I'm a very friendly person. I don't like ripping stuff to shreds, so I'll try to find at least one or two nice things to say about a piece. I very rarely decide to critique something I completely loathed anyway. Something in the piece made me think the writer had potential to make something (more) enjoyable, and I want to help that along. If you're working with someone who is less experienced, it's good to throw in a bit more positive stuff to be encouraging. I mean, you just spent some of your precious free time trying to help someone improve. You don't want to be so discouraging they just give up entirely. But the positive stuff works best if you can explain why it is a strength in the work. Often, new writers don't know when they're doing something well anymore than they know when they're doing something awful. Explaining the why's and how's of both the good and bad aspects of a piece of writing can be very beneficial. - LiliWrites


Critique is to be tailored, of course. However, I think that regardless of the "expertise" of the person whose work you're critiquing, mentioning the positives in one's work is part of the critique process - and not because like for beginners, you need to "encourage" professionals too, but because it's as important to point out what didn't work as what did, writing-wise. Granted, you will say "but a professional should already know what works"; and that can be true. But I don't think that's always true, and considering that critique is in part made through personal perspective, the critiquer might give insight or compliment a specific part of the poem that the writer was unsure about. It's like "this worked, you should keep it up" - and I think this is a critique too, simply instead of correcting, it confirms. It's as beneficial as improvement suggestions because it gives the writer a few pointers as far as "things I don't need to focus on right now" and "things I do need to focus on" go. That being said, I'm not a fan of unnecessary compliments. If it's a beginner, I will do my best to give some positive points too because it's important to encourage their improvement and art, but the more advanced the writer is, the more honest I will be. Never cruel, because that's not the point of a critique, and I'll probably still look for something good to comment on, but I will embellish and "pad" both my negatives and positives less because I'll be assuming that they don't need as much protection from the truth. - TheMaidenInBlack


To me, it is all about the fine line between offering tactful insights vs insulting the writer's work. - LadyLincoln, summing it up better than the rest of us while also using the fewest words


Parks and Recreation. - pica-ae


Over To You


Are you the Simon or the Paula when you critique? Which do you prefer when people critique your work? Leave us your opinions in the comments!


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BREAKING:

Journal Entry: Fri Jun 26, 2015, 8:08 AM


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[The above is a found poem biography/artist's statement made of animated gifs. Oops.]

I'm C "Mark" Perry, the picture-taking former Gallery Moderator, now Community Volunteer for Photography who proselytizes about pringles, pandas and polaroids. In meatspace I worked as a designer and staff photographer for several years, then swapped into marketing management; I still freelance, show and sell my work but I don't like to talk about it. I'm a once-upon-a-time lit kid who's had a poem/editorial published here and there. I paint too. P is not my favourite letter, but you'd never believe that based on this paragraph.

I was around the site, dAmn and IRC on a few other accounts on and off since before dinosaurs had feathers, most notably on the account `IBinsanity, where I probably left you with a very favourable first impression.

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