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Photography Exposed is a series of articles brought to you by your General Photography Community Volunteers! RockstarVanityMrs-Durden and tiganusi are going to be exposing the popular and not so popular galleries within the main Photography gallery here at DeviantArt. For this edition, I'm focusing on Traditional Processes, because I'm feeling nostalgic about the medium!

Breathe by TanjaMoss

What is it?

Images which have been developed and/or printed using film and/or photographic paper containing light-sensitive chemicals, specifically silver halides, by way of traditional darkroom techniques.

Water dreams by fragilemuse-org

Trad process submissions are, simply, film shots or prints from a darkroom that aren't using weird experimental/historical processes or instant media. The trad process gallery is one of the technique-based galleries, which means that every submission would fit equally well in one of the theme-based categories like APN or Conceptual depending on the subject of the photo; by submitting to trad processes you're inviting criticism of not only the shot itself but also the medium you chose to capture it with and the choices you made in processing the final image you've presented.

untitled 3 by assunaphantomhive
Ioana by XaviBeauty
Untitled by mehrmeer
untitled portrait by equivoque
Anima by Les-Diables
Doppleganger by MaryMadly
Drying leaves... by NightAndWind
Horizon__13__Boots by xxlogre
2012-13 by SmallFly
woman by SevincYusifova

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Chats and Forums Week

Interested in getting some realtime feedback on your work or offering some input to other artists on theirs? Then this one's for you! Tomorrow projecteducate will be hosting a

Live Critique Session


A What?

Critique! You know? Offering advice and feedback on the work of other people? Yeah, that. In realtime. Basically, anyone who comes and wants to receive in-depth critique on a piece of their art will be added to a queue and one by one you will be given the opportunity to show the piece and get feedback from the other participants plus some special guests from the community. Everyone is welcome, across any medium - so stop in and show us what you've done lately! Or just give other people some critique if you're shy.


Wednesday, December 16


11AM Pacific Time
(use this time converter to get your local time)


(Don't know how to get there? Just click the name. I am a dummy!)

See you there. :stare:

The Tearoom Debates VII: Reading v. Writers

Journal Entry: Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:58 AM
Welcome back to the seventh installment of CRLiterature's new article series, The Tearoom Debates! We've shamelessly ripped off Mrs-Durden and CRPhotography, who currently run a bi-weekly series of opportunities for group readers to debate both sides of questions like "film or digital?" and then, in the next article, spotlight the input of the previous week's commenters.

Last installment we asked, "What's still scary and what's clichéed?" and the answers were longer than ever before! Some highlights included:

Your Input

When it comes to "horror" fiction and what's actually scary - it's what's real. Killers are real. Knives in the back are real. Fiction is fiction, but reality is reality. When I read a novel about a psychopath creeping up on an innocent protagonist, I have to turn around and make sure they're not behind me. I love it. - OfOneSoul
Horror comes across when the reader/viewer can relate to some part of the story and/or character.  The events told are ordinary, or at least seem so, until the author takes the veneer of normalcy to reveal something that is really quite decidedly not ordinary.  The way the veneer is lifted, and/or the way the normalcy is torqued (which the way it is twisted need not be much, but only ever so slightly), throw things in such a different light than what we enjoy, that it shifts the thinking of the viewer, even if only for a moment. - Steve-C2
In this day and age far more can be shown/described and got away with by story tellers. Horror can be more explicit, but that won't necessarily be effective for all. Personally I tend to find the sinister far more frightening than the just plain gross, which doesn't scare me, just makes me feel sick. - GladeFaun
I find that what really frightens people has to be subtle and convincing. I don't think the topic really matters, as long as you can get under somebody's skin. And I think there shouldn't be constraints or limits - anything must truly go in the story, otherwise the reader feels safe knowing that there are safeguards and that things won't get too bad. GRR Martin uses zombies, beheadings, flaying, etc - but to be honest it gets old and it doesn't really scare me, in itself. What actually does is knowing that nobody is safe, truly - there are no limits. But it's also worth noting that if you don't really care about the story (in his case because everybody has been killed already), then you feel bored no matter how scary the topic is. - Exillior
Idiots. Reality. - neurotype

This Week's Discussion

Is it beneficial for writers to read? Does it make you a better writer? Can it make you a good writer?

Here's what the usual gang of bitches at CRLit had to say, less the knife fights I've redacted:

I don't see why it shouldn't - anything can make you a better writer. It's not necessarily reading, it's living.  - Naktarra

Reading without analysing is just entertainment. It is the analysis of what you have read -- what worked, what didn't, why did the author choose to use this term instead of that term, etc -- that helps you improve in your own writing. It is why you can learn a heck of a lot about your own writing from giving critique. :D (Big Grin) *hinthint* - LiliWrites 

This is always a weird question to me, because I feel a little differently in that consistent reading doesn't necessarily make you a better writer and I feel a writer can most definitely improve their writing without reading others' work, but it's just not a practical and conscious way to improve. There's also the issue of what you're reading. One of the things I learned while learning to play the guitar is that the single most important thing you can do to learn to play guitar is to keep it in tune all the time, so that when you practice playing, the guitar is not out of tune. The importance of this is that when you play an instrument out of tune, you're training your body to play an out of tune instrument, and not an instrument that is in tune. You don't want to get your ears and fingers used to bad notes and loose strings or that's all you'll ever play. I feel the same way about reading. If you only ever read horribly bad writing, your own writing will reflect that. It's a "you are what you eat" type of scenario. - Nichrysalis 

I'm going to have to say No here.  If someone has the proper education and knows how to fundamentally write, they may never have to pick up another novel in their life.  While I do believe that reading is helpful when writing your own work, I don't think it's absolutely necessary to become a great writer. - brennenxr

To me, as cliche as it sounds, reading = knowledge and of course, knowledge = power.  - LadyLincoln

To me, there are no IFs and BUTs to this question. I've always found that reading is the easiest, most effortless way to improve as a writer - by reading you both get to do something enjoyable, and get to know what works and what doesn't in literature. And it might not seem like it, but it really is knowledge that gets translated into your writing; and when I had a really bad life period and it seemed like I couldn't write much at all, reading is what brought me back to it. The inspiration that that causes, the worlds that it opens up inside your head, but I think most of all what brought me back was the "vicinity" to what I wanted to create. So, reading absolutely makes you a better writer. Even reading the news can make you a better writer, even reading an instructions manual can make you a better writer - you never know when your character will decide to buy a new microwave. :P (Lick) - TheMaidenInBlack

A very clear yes. How can one expect to improve as a writer if they never read anything except their own work? - ObsydianDreamer 

I don't know how one expects to master any art without consuming that art. Good, bad, so-so—you need to know it and know about it in order to create it yourself.  - PinkyMcCoversong 

Nope. - tiganusi

Over To You

Discuss. :stare:

Skin by SimplySilent


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I'm C "Mark" Perry, the picture-taking former Gallery Moderator, now Community Volunteer for Photography who proselytizes about pringles, pandas and polaroids. In meatspace I worked as a designer and staff photographer for several years, then swapped into marketing management; I still freelance, show and sell my work but I don't like to talk about it. I'm a once-upon-a-time lit kid who's had a poem/editorial published here and there. I paint too. P is not my favourite letter, but you'd never believe that based on this paragraph.

I was around the site, dAmn and IRC on a few other accounts on and off since before dinosaurs had feathers, most notably on the account `IBinsanity, where I probably left you with a very favourable first impression.


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I just found out you love Patti Smith. :heart: She means a great deal to me as well, especially to my 9-13 year old self so if you ever wanted to share your experiences of her I'd be up for talking. If not, then I still regard you in a holy light for evermore.
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Thks so much for the DD Big morning surprise !:)
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woah.. thank you so much for the "DD", you just really made my day :)
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many thanks for the DD! i was so surprised after coming back from the holidays to see all the notifications! it means even more coming from someone whose work ive admired for so long. thanks again mark.
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not a robot, definitely not trash, gladly silencing you though! please refer to the site's etiquette policy if you'd like to know why hate speech about african americans is not allowed in the forums. thanks. :)
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